Hello Christian. I’m a self-professed watch dork but let me be the first to admit that an automatic mechanical watch is the spitting image of a gratuitous use of money. It’s in mint condition and I got it for $2,800 with no box and paper. That will damage the watch. – P.J. This watch has Breitling’s in house movement and claims to run -4/+6 seconds, so is out of that range. Your automatic watch has run out of juice. The guy did his magic and a few minutes later, I my Carrera 5 had gone from +10 to -2 a day--which doesn't bother me. Even just a couple of turns of the crown or a brief shake will usually get it started again. Andy, You would turn the crown away from you (clockwise) to wind it. I just really want to take care of my grandfathers watch, especially if I have to pay a boatload to restore it. The watch is only 3 months old. I’m no watchmaker, but it’s basically speeding up the heartbeat of the watch to improve its timing. I bought a Breitling Navitimer 01 46mm with see through case back 2 months ago, brand new from AD. ..unless your desk job is just incredibly sedentary. This is my first automatic and second luxury watch. So after I had the watched serviced the timing issue is fine but it still seems to not last longer than 20 hours, am I doing anything wrong? Leaving it idle will not damage the watch. A watch is wound via its crown, usually clockwise. Something is not right. We love getting questions about their specific movement and the characteristics of each timepiece we sell. Hello Jason. If Rolex just serviced the watch, you have a great warranty with them. Thanks so much for doing this!! I’d assume the Bulgari has an ETA 2892 based movement. Is there anything I can do or be it doing to protect and extend the life of my Longines? I had it sent back to Longines who say this is ‘within normal tolerance’ Is that true or should I send it back again, It kept good time for a year and cost £1,240. Mine is a year old. It stabilized at about +8s after erratic readings in the first 2 weeks. It has kept poor time for years, and in the time it’s been in my family we didn’t know about manual winding. Is there a cause for concern? I just wore it and would have to reset it if it went 8 hrs without movement. I have a Gruen precision 21 jewel and want to know which direction is actually winding the watch when I turn the crown. While most movements wind both directions, the 7750 is only clockwise. I couldn’t be happier. Guessing I should be handwindg both of these as I don’t wear them every day? It recently stopped, and I have never used the crown to wind it. Thank you for your sage advice. New watches do have a break-in period and should become even more accurate with use. I suggest you contact Kenneth Cole or the store you bought it from. If your watch runs fine while you wear it, I would suspect the winder. My problem wit the watch is that it doesnt have to stay idle for up to 5 hrs before it stops and it always stop somewhere between10:30pm to 10:35pm. That’s almost three minutes slow a week! My main recommendation is: when you start to wear it, wind it. We are not familiar with that caliber so would not know the appropriate winding settings. Many movements will lose time more quickly if it has not been worn/touched in over 24 hours (closer to 32+ hours). Longines decided to discontinue the model without the date, thus making it a sought-after model that is relatively hard to find as it only had a short production period. Hi Cory, I have just had my Rolex watch serviced as it had timing issues and also the watched seems to stop after 20 hours (being worn). I have no experience of automatic watches and recently purchased a new Hamilton Khaki Field 38mm Auto. About the only published count I am aware of is for COSC certifications and that’s just a fraction of movements made. You need to wear the watch or have a winder do the job. Three adjustment positions. I generally pick one and wear if for about a week and then switch to another. If you are going to wear an automatic watch for only a couple days out of the week, it is best to get a movement based watchwinder than to wind the watch manually every time you pick it up. Providing that would help me know the watch. Hi Cory, I think this advice that it’s a good idea to hand wind the watch from time to time is simply not correct (although hand winding it certainly won’t do any harm either). For that movement you must set your winder at CLOCKWISE and 900TPD. Is this normal? Hello Juan. I can simply set the time, wind it and the watch keeps perfect time all day long. Hello Joacim. Winders are not a bad thing, but they are not a requirement. I have recently acquired a Bvlgari automatic watch. They told me that by the serial number. Hi Edwin. Could that affect/damage the stem / crown strength and add wear and stress due to frequent pull in and out? The Zenith manual diagram is somewhat inconclusive as to the direction clockwise or counter-clockwise to wind the crown. Hi all i have a breitling chronomat evolution what kind of winder would be best for it budget wise. I will be able to wear the watch Saturday through Monday (12 hours a day) and Tuesday through Friday (about 5 hours a day intermitently). Thx. just update to people who may concern: it’s ok to wind 75 – 100 turns on Omega cal-2500. I wound 10 rotations then left it wound down fully . Hello there. Most Swiss automatics have a power reserve of 38-44 hours so if you wear it daily you will not need to set or wind it in the morning. Any modern automatic watch with a movement in good working condition can run for at least 38 hours – this is the minimum power reserve that you will find on pretty much every watch out there. Personally I would just wind them as needed when worn. I just recently pulled out my (I believe 1980)Seiko automatic with 17 jewels (as it says on the face of the watch). A watch is wound via its crown, usually clockwise. And I have an option to rotate clockwise or counterclockwise, does it matter which one I chose? The main bad thing I could see happening is the stem (part that connects crown the movement) breaking, which is not the end of the world. I have a Super Avenger and sometimes the date works sometimes I have to reset it??? Bedding in, commonly known as breaking in, new brake pads and rotors is necessary for new brakes to work properly. Could you please help me to figure out the problem? While most movements wind both directions, the 7750 is only clockwise. Dan. For non-COSC watches, many watch companies feel within 30 seconds per day is acceptable. Be careful. On Thursday morning at 3am the watch stopped, and I wound it again when I got up. Hi Ben. to 40 hours reserve? The advice we give is to never set the DATE (or any calendar function if it’s a more complicated watch) while the watch is between 9pm and 3am as that’s when the calendar function is engaging. Watch is brand new and I wear it every day (12-14 hrs). None of us here at Bernard Watch own any winders for personal use. Because for daily i wear another watch. Sometimes when you set the hand and it comes back around it's not always dead on from where you set it. Either the crown or rotor isn’t operating correctly, or the mainspring isn’t holding its power. Footnote: the Avenger made it 8 years with no manual winding and almost daily wear. Can i ask one more question, my automatic self-winding watch run 20-25seconds fast a day. Do you think it could be related to the fact that I never winded my watch in the past one year or it is an issue that I should bring to the manufacturer? Automatic watches are very intricate pieces of engineering that bring a lot of enjoyment to its wearer. I havent brought it to a watchmaker yet and was wondering whats the actual problem behind it. The winder description says it rotates for 1 hour then sits for 3 hours and I cannot adjust the amount of rotations. I am using a wolf winder and have my carerra 1887 set to bi-directional at 450 winds in each direction. You wear it once every 4 or 5 days? Depending on the terms of the company you bought it from, I suggest you contact them. What is wrong for my Tag? As a side comment, I did wind the watch manually once with 35-40. Something is not right. Winding most watches counter-clockwise does nothing. If the watch is stopping, you may need a service. Right? I believe your Bulgari has an ETA 2892 and can be wound in either direction. Hi Patrick. Is it ok to just leave it in drawer for extended time without winding it? What can I do to remedy this problem? Do you know if this watch has a mechanism to stop it from being over wound? I wear the watch every day and have been winding the crown 40 times before resetting the time once or twice a week. Rolexes, Omega , Brietling and recently a Panerai Luminor 1950 Submersible . We have never heard that, and advise mechanical/automatic watches to be stored with the crown in (closed) to prevent dust and moisture from entering the watch. The issue was intermittant and now a few weeks has past and everything seems to be fine. It only can worked properly for 9-12hours after that. Thanks. Next time your watch powers down, wind it a bit more than previous times.. You can also manually wind it via the crown 15-25 times once per day to keep it rolling. Hoping it won’t cost an arm and a leg to have it fixed up. This seems like it is operating normally for me. Question for you Cory. I have an Omega Dynamic 5240.50.00. which until recently kept good time. which my new caliber 5 aquaracer 300m seems to be doing. I recently purchased a Breitling Superocean. If you wear the watch 24/7 you should NEVER need to wind the watch! Personally, I do not have much actual hands-on experience with watch winders, and have zero experience with cheaper winders. I just bought a Zenith Heritage Port Royal – a dream watch running perfectly! The vast majority of modern automatic watches run for 40 to 50 hours, with … This allows the watch to find its beat and distribute the lubricants evenly. Hi Oleg. It’s been years since I’ve worn it and even now that I’m wearing it again, It won’t be a daily thing as I have several other watches I like. Its a Breitling Navitimer GMT. So am I understanding this correctly? What’s correct is subjective. Setting the watch 5-10 times a month is fine for a little while, but over 2 years of that is a lot of extra wear and tear that I advise avoiding. I have Tag Heuer Aquaracer WAK-2110 (Calibre 5) almost 2 years. Let’s look at some things you should consider when you’re ready to purchase your next mechanical watch. I purchased a Tissot PR50 Automatic a few years back. I don’t wear this watch very often and was advised by Breitling and by several watch makers to use a watch winder. 3. Cory and P.J. How does it behave if you wear it everyday after giving it a good wind? I have bought my longines watch recently and the at 24 hour mark the the date is not changing. After reading the winding instructions, very carefully, and actually winding it it started up. I actually just learned about the Seikos not being hand-wound a year or two ago. Just taking the letters A, B, C, and D, we have Audemars Piguet, Bulgari, Cartier, and DeWitt. Should I get it checked? As at the time i havent learnt to wound it, the watch could stop anytime (even while on my wrist), but after learning how to wiound it, the watch only stops when idle to the time between between10:30pm to 10:35pm. Again, I have not worn the watch yet, will on special occasions. Thank You. Am I damaging anything by doing this? 2. my questions is: I drive to work and home. This movement is rated via three grades. Is this normal operating condition for this watch? No harm! On day 2, it will run smoother if wound and that will extend the life of the watch and increase the time needed between services. Contact the company you bought it from. I have several watches, and some I do not wear for months. Thanks again! But still I’m not convinced. Anybody has more info on this, and/or can provide links, I'd appreciate it. All just have a numerical date window. I don’t want to wear it often. I just purchased a MIDO Multifort Chronograph running on a ETA Valjoux 7750 a year ago and I noticed it was running late. Looks like I'm now running 10" a day fast. Craig, Yes it is normal for the rotor to ‘stick’ a little bit as you describe. (eta7750, I believe). I think it’s fine to leave your watch in a drawer for an extended time… Assuming the temperature in the house doesn’t go through extreme swings or hit extreme highs and lows. Thank you. If I hold my watch vertical, with the rotor at the top, it does not swing to the bottom without a slight shake. I appreciate your input. Prior to that, only watchmakers had winders. If the watch is keeping good time and otherwise running fine, then it is probably cost prohibitive to service for just the crown issue. Hi, I didn’t buy it new, however yes I do spend most of the time on the keyboard, so watch is not getting much movement. Without this feature, the mainspring would break or malfunction in some way. It’s fine if they stop. I do not wind it manually though. Arrange to have your lawn cut or snow removed from your walks if you're going to be gone for a long period. I have Victorinox automatic watches 241508. Hi Cory, My Tag Aquaracer 500, eta 2841, stops overnight unless wound every three days or so even though I wear it nearly always except in bed (that being by far the best way to get lots of scratches on the watch) but it also stopped in the afternoon the other day while I was driving. +10 may be considered "in spec" by TAG, but it bothered me. I did not understand Victorinox range -2 +20. That timing sounds acceptable for a Swiss Army watch. Having new brake pads and rotors installed happens on a regular basis. I just got a Tissot Le Locle Automatic using the ETA 2824-2.I just adjusted the date at 12:45(right after midnight) during the date function engagement time, but only skipped two days. But the watch is running perfectly after 30 turns but its really stiff from first to last turning of the crown. This is evidence that, yes, many watches will run off wrist power alone, but winding it via the crown keeps the mainspring tight and the watch running at its optimal performance. There are 3 different grades: Elaborated, top, and chronometer. I don’t mind if it’s always +/- 4 secs but a minute is a bit fast. I hear the cheaper models can magnetise your watch and affect the components? Avoid any winders that are refereed to as ‘spinners’ that wind it non-stop. Come join the discussion about watch collections, displays, watch winders, accessories, classifieds, and more! I have tried to adjust the p.m and a.m by rotating the hour counter one full cycle, it is not changing at mid-might. The 1966 Automatic is the sort of all-rounder that makes for a great first (or 52nd) watch: it's clean, classic and powered by a respected movement made in … Can I wind my watch for several days in one direction and then the opposite for another couple of days with out harm? Hello, Kasteer. Hi Cory, I have 4 automatic watch (hamilton jazzmaster, tissot le locle, frederique constant classic, and longines moonphase. +2 to -2 is EXCELLENT. No watch should behave like that. Should I go to Tag Heuer Service Center to fix this or this just normal. Hi, I wear it 10 to 12 hours a day from Monday to Friday and around 4 hours on weekend. The watch only has the time (no date, etc) and 3 crown positions – closed, 1 click (not sure what it is for) and 2 clicks (where the time is set). If it’s been doing well for weeks with no repeat of the early stopping, you are probably fine. Also I found my watch was stop running after 3 days i put in watch winder. Hi Dan. Ive had a brand new Breitling Galactic 41 watch for about 2 weeks now. Just make sure it’s well wound if it has stopped. After timing the watch he made a comment that clued me in that he had never wound the watch via the crown. The ETA 2824-2’s hand winding parts for instance tend to wear out fast if you hand wind them a lot. I purchased a good quality watch winder and I am finding that the watch which works fine when I am wearing it, will stop working on the watch winder after about two or three days. Based on your description, the watch should not be behaving like that. Thank you so much. A winder would be a good idea. I have been tracking my latest purchase -a Hamilton Jazzmaster with ETA 2834-2 movement- for 4 weeks. Or is it ok to leave it? Witschi showing poor timing marks on running, but unwound watch. Hi Cory, Thanks for all the useful info. Are the eta 7750 movements all made in the same factory or the same templates? Modern Mechanical COSC Certified watchWorst Case Scenario+6/-4 seconds per day99.994% accuracyTypical+/-3 seconds per day99.996% accuracyExcellent+/- 1 seconds per day99.998% accuracy It is important to understand that a fresh watch off the shelf may need a break-in period of a month or so. That does not sound right. Any ideas? Hello Shane. hope it’s true. Hi Steve. And I have never wound it for a year now. If you let me know which Longines model you have, I can try to help. And just left sitting idle? Even though we’re at a desk, we still move. Is it necessary to wind the watch if I am wearing it most days? I love the watch, btw. The automatic, or self-winding, watch… Thanks in advance! Should I get it service or am missing something. HI there Cory, The practice does keep your watch power on pause, but due to opening it to the elements it is not advised. Is this normal? I wish more folks could supply data like this!! I replaced the crown and stem withought difficulty; it just snapped back, in but now wont work at all. For example, with most modern ETAs, anything under 250 amplitude means your watch should be taken in for service. Last week when I took it out and tried to adjust the date manually, it didn’t work even after moving the crown several times so I had to move the hands in order to move it 5 days forward. Had issues with accuracy and date turn over (3mins early). We do have some Orbita and Wolf winders in the office we use for monitoring and quality control. If you have an automatic watch, you should plan to wear it daily for optimal performance. I wear them every day. Should I consider it normal? I'm getting a little peeved and have set the watch slow to keep from getting too far out. Do you think a good manual wind (40 clockwise revolutions) would address this issue? You can control where Word and Outlook position automatic page breaks by setting pagination options. Big mistake. Still, you’ll need to wind your automatic occasionally. I need to understand the mechanism on my watch better. Hi Cory I just got a Tudor Galapagos watch and I can’t find what exactly how many turns it takes to be fully wound. Victorinox told me watches are on average -2 to +20 per day. Purists wanted to have this watch without a date, like the original 1950s version, but according to Longines, the majority wanted a date because it is a practical complication. Am I right in thinking it should never stop while I am actually wearing it? This was Friday 02/20/2015 at 20:21. When you're not used to the handling of a new vehicle, you should accelerate only on the straightaways, then slow down extra early for the turns. If you’re new to automatic watch, there’s one thing that you need to know: automatic watch is less accurate than normal quartz watch. Hi Cory , every weekend I wind my Tissot prs 516 by hand via the crown, because I don’t wearing it at home. If an automatic watch is worn for 10 to 12 hours per day, it will become fully wound on its own. Why won’t my rotor wind my automatic watch for me? You wear it for 4 to 5 days, then take it off for 3? I think your experience might have been a coincidence. You likely paid full retail, you deserve to get red carpet support from Rolex. Hi Cory, I have just bought my first mechanical watch. Thank you very much. Everytime it stopped I manually wound it 40 turns. Durable, beautiful watches are what we stand for. Of course, automatic watch accuracy isn’t perfect, but accuracy varies greatly between different models and brands. That said, we don’t recommend winding the watch for hours on end =P. So, I have an Orient automatic watch. Then, switch the gear lever from "park" to "drive" without letting up on the brake. So your freshly serviced watch is just on the cusp of what’s expected of a brand new Rolex. I wear watches every day from 7am till 7pm. How Does an Automatic Watch Work? I don’t think you need to break the bank on a winder, but we are talking about five to six figure watches here, don’t just get the cheapest winder, do a little research on the winder company. Also, I just received a Wolf watch winder. When I tried winding the watch I am already feeling the resistance on the first turn it is very stiff, feels like there is something that gonna break inside if i continue. Serial numbered. Sorry, we do not handle Seiko watches and are not qualified to diagnose or comment on Seiko performance. Just seems like a vert odd feeling while returning the crown to its locked position. Hello Ed. The crown should not come out! I wind all watches every morning. and am interested in buying an automatic watch winder. I notice this watch some time faster +2 sec per day and other day it seem slow -2 sec. Thank you! I love it, but it keeps stopping! This may be why the watchmaker told you not to worry about it. In addition to measuring accuracy, timegraphers offer a snapshot of the health of your watch (a low amplitude or high beat rate can be a sign of mechanical failure). Sorry. I have a Tissot 1853 which I wear 3 to 4 days a week and always take it off at night. I have a Rolex Day Date in case you were wondering. Again since we’re not familiar with KC watches, I don’t even know if you can wind them via the crown. The rotor does not free wheel, and can appear to get stuck, so that might be normal. fast per day, just barely within COSC standards. 2. Reach out to them and they’ll assist you. As many hours as on working days. thanks for your reply, I got about 33 hours after fully wound (one 30 winds and one for 40 winds), so it seems not working well :((( Automatic Watches for Men. Again though, on the third day of non-use I found that is had stopped again. No watch will suddenly break down from one day to the next because you didn’t follow each instruction to a “t.” It’s more important that you enjoy your automatic watch without any worries, perhaps keeping what you’ve learned in the back of your mind. So yes, hand winding it to get a proper idea of its performance was the right thing to do, but that doesn’t extrapolate to “you ought to hand wind your watch from time to time”. I have about a dozen automatic watches and have had varying success with winders. Select the paragraphs that contain lines you want to keep together. Thanks. Is it normal? Previously when I wound it 30x I could only get 20 hours. Or can I simply pull out the crown and set the time? Cory, I have 5 automatic watches and wish them all to retain accurate time (the Rolex Exp II and Steinhart Ocean Vintage military are 2 and 3 secs fast per day respectively) as I generally rotate between the two every day. every day? Hello Hiren. Stop when you feel resistance. And as more days pass it’ll increase by 3-5 secs. Thanks. I have not taken it off since then and have been relatively active for 19 hours per day since initial manual winding. I work in office. I will collect and post the data for that one for a direct comparison. This watch will keep great time if it is worn regularly now that it has been wound via crown. Hi Cory. I understand you can’t wind this watch via the crown, so I was wondering if it had lost time due him not been as active due to it been Christmas and been off work, as he is usually a lot busier? I wear about 3-5 different automatic watches a month. Vario's 2nd watch collection inspired by Art Deco period Thank you. Hi Olivia. We do carefully time all the watches we sell to avoid such surprises. I don’t want to damage it and spend on an expensive repair again. The crown had never been wound by this man. It will not harm be harmed if it is not running. And Why Do We Need To Do It? I received it back from Tag and it is now running much better and consistently. I just had my Rolex GMT-II Master serviced and dial replaced and it is running 5-6 seconds slow. I do wind the watch 40 times when I find it stopped. One more thing since I don’t have any paper for this watch, how would I know what year is this watch released? I got it from Beaverbrooks. Hi Kevin. Hi Cory, great blog. Most watchmakers would recommend a full overhaul. COSC standards state your watch should run -4 to +6 / seconds / day accuracy, which your watch is doing. I have several automatic watches that sat for more than a year in the box without wearing or winding. How do you think, should I return this watch? Many thanks. You need a winder that has intervals of winding. Hi Cory, I just got this pre-owned Cartier Roadster black face W62041V3 that I bought from a 2nd hand shop in Bangkok. Do you have any suggestions on how to correct it aside from of course bringing it to a watchmaker. The problem is that when it stops I kick start by hand winding (30-40 times) And then if i dont wear it, i can run for more than 30 hours. I think I need to return it to the seller for service at least :((. I have a Breitling Chronomat 47mm that is supposed to have a 72-hour power reserve. Good question Patrick. I am not sure if the jeweler ever wound the watch a full 40 times so could that be why it is losing more time and stopping early sometimes? Something does not sound right. Your watch sounds fine. Our article is applicable to Swiss or German made automatic movements. Could it need a new mainspring or can a good Rolex man fix it so it can go more than 36 hours? We’ve been working with automatic watches for the last 3 decades Watch & Wares. By not wearing and no movements on the mechanicals, wont it reduce the wear on it? When it does swing I cannot however get it to do a full circle – it would stop (or get stuck) then I shake the watch and it starts swinging again. ?Is it factory defect? Hello Hieu. Very informational. ", "Can we bless or at least not curse whatever struggles to stay alive on this planet of struggles?". Hi, I have a Tudor Black Bay and it’s my first automatic watch, so I have a stupid question. are the most helpful, patient and responsive gentlemen I think I’ve ever seen on any blog or forum. I’ve actually taken to sleeping with it on and still find that occasionally it stops. Damage is a harsh word, though. It has never been on a crown. Welcome to Counterpoint, a series in which we challenge commonly held ideas about well-known products.This time: watch winders. I wear it daily even when I go to sleep so most of the time I dont really wind the crown. Best case, it just needs to be demagnetized or regulated; worst case, it needs a full overhaul service, but either way, it needs to go to a watchmaker for a diagnosis. A good crown wind should get the watch running optimally if there is no issue with the movement. If so, how long should they operate to keep them in good shape? It’s not ideal to be winding the watch several times a week on a constant basis. 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